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#1 (permalink) Old 09-29-2015, 04:26 PM
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Eventually VW Will Recall 11 Million Diesels...Eventually



Just today VW announced an eventual recall of the almost 11 million vehicles fitted with Type EA189 diesel engines and defeat devices.

At first customers affected will receive a letter informing them that that "the emissions characteristics of their vehicles will be corrected in the near future.

That solution doesn't seem to of been decided as of yet, "Under the action plan, Volkswagen and the other Group brands whose vehicles are affected will present the technical solutions and measures to the responsible authorities in October. Customers with these vehicles will be kept informed over the coming weeks and months."

The problem is VW doesn't seem to be able to fix the cars with a simple software patch, they tried it in California back in April of this year, informing owners their cars needed an "emissions service action". California Air Resources Board spokesman Dave Clegern confirmed VW's attempt This is one of the fixes they presented to us as a potential solution. It didnt work.

So where does that leave the "technical solution"? If software won't do it then it sounds like they will need actual parts, for 11 million vehicles...VW doesn't sell 11 million cars annually.

This is no small job and it won't be finished quickly, but eventually.
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Audi vehicles were affected by this as well and the recall will probably cost them billions. Doubt they can sweep this under the rug like BMW and their recall inaction. Seems like the German auto manufacturers are coming under a lot of scrutiny this year.
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Audi vehicles were affected by this as well and the recall will probably cost them billions. Doubt they can sweep this under the rug like BMW and their recall inaction. Seems like the German auto manufacturers are coming under a lot of scrutiny this year.
They will be now. I bet you that the heightened scrutiny will bring to light more issues of mistakes or corruption. It's also bringing more focus on the industry generally. Companies other than the Germans are being investigated as well. I know that the Colorado is being investigated now.



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#4 (permalink) Old 10-01-2015, 02:52 PM
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Jeep’s Renegade 2.0 was found guilty of emitting 10 times more NOx too. Not sure if there's going to be a global wide recall at this point if the automotive authorities decides that every car listed by Adac showing emissions exceeding the limit needs to be fixed.
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Jeeps Renegade 2.0 was found guilty of emitting 10 times more NOx too. Not sure if there's going to be a global wide recall at this point if the automotive authorities decides that every car listed by Adac showing emissions exceeding the limit needs to be fixed.
When did this happen? Is it clear if they did the same thing as VW, or is there some other explanation?



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Already they ordered a ton of palladium to use as part of the fix. The ball is slowly rolling.
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#7 (permalink) Old 10-05-2015, 03:25 PM
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Already they ordered a ton of palladium to use as part of the fix. The ball is slowly rolling.
It will take so long to complete the whole thing. I read somewhere that VW saved $300 on each vehicle because of this trick. I bet you that it will cost more than $300 per vehicle to recall them all and "fix" them.



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#8 (permalink) Old 10-06-2015, 11:34 AM
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I think the VW scandal lowered the price of palladium quite a bit. Smart move to then buy it in bulk to save money.
Still going to cost them a lot to fix 11 million cars but it won't make too much of a dent in their cash reserves.
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#9 (permalink) Old 10-06-2015, 03:13 PM
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I read the total cost might be around $86 billion. I am not sure on the amount of money VW makes or holds onto but it seems like that would have to be at least noticeable. it's more than an annoyance that can be paid for and then swept away.



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#10 (permalink) Old 10-06-2015, 04:00 PM
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For sure. One thing for sure is it will set them back but only temporary, being the size of company they are and what they have going on.
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