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#1 (permalink) Old 07-28-2017, 03:57 PM
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Gas Powered Audi A4 Receives Stop-Sale Order In Europe



Audi has been hit by a stop-sale order in Europe and it doesn’t just end with the petrol powered A4 model. Even the A5 is affected along with the S4 and S5 performance models.

According to Australian publication Motoring, this order could halt sales for up to two months and leave Audi without any petrol models to sell in a time when European buyers are skittish around diesel powered vehicles after VW’s Dieselgate scandal.

Essentially what happened was the four listed vehicles failed to meet their claimed fuel consumption figures.
With the 2.0-liter TFSI powered A4 and A5 models, Audi added a starter-generator in an effort to improve real-world fuel economy. In practice, the system actually added about 0.2L/100km over the New European Driving Cycle.

“It’s worse consumption. You don’t have the mild hybrid functioning on the test cycle. You don’t have the effect by just the standard consumption. As a customer you will have the effect and the benefit. It’s worse in the lab but better on the road,” the spokesman said.

As for the 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 powered S4 and S5, both underwent a software change that raised the fuel consumption figures above what was officially quoted.

Currently, Audi is waiting for the German government to approve of their new consumption figures and because of how the Schengen Agreement works, all 27 European countries aside from Switzerland has put a stop-sale order on these models as well.
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#2 (permalink) Old 07-28-2017, 06:37 PM
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Shame on these car makers for messing with numbers but this is what happens when they know it will have little impact when things go wrong like they did here. Poll potential Audi A4 buyers on if they'll continue to buy and you can bet majority of them will. That's what Audi knows.
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Not really messing with numbers in the sense of what VW did, but more like small adjustment with unforeseen changes to the car's fuel economy ratings. Nothing like the emissions scandal from VW and shouldn't really deter buyers from getting the A4. Maybe it'll be even better for those who wants one, perhaps dealers will hand out great discounts to move products.
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#4 (permalink) Old 08-03-2017, 12:23 PM
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Not really messing with numbers in the sense of what VW did, but more like small adjustment with unforeseen changes to the car's fuel economy ratings. Nothing like the emissions scandal from VW and shouldn't really deter buyers from getting the A4. Maybe it'll be even better for those who wants one, perhaps dealers will hand out great discounts to move products.
good points
i guess the VW situation and the fines that came down showed just how had the regulators can come back with disciplinary action in proportion to how bad the scandal was

EPA is already starting to improve things so maybe this is the last of it?
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“We are also stepping up our work to test vehicles once they are in customers’ hands. We’re developing new screening methods to ensure these engines are behaving in the real world in a correlated manner when we test them in the laboratory, so we no longer have defeat-device cases to pursue,” he said.
http://www.hybridcars.com/epa-broade...al-world-data/
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Would be nice if they would send cars back if they don't meet the manufacturer's suggested fuel consumption rating by a certain percentage. Some cars these days are falling short a lot.
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Would be nice if they would send cars back if they don't meet the manufacturer's suggested fuel consumption rating by a certain percentage. Some cars these days are falling short a lot.
Costs too much, just think about all the resources, time and money required to go through all that. Easiest method is to send customers cash back to make up for the difference, then once they sell, no more cash back and the 2nd owner would get nothing.
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